FFFAIF In Fromelles

Families and Friends of the First AIF member Johan Durnez of Belgium (wearing his FFFAIF shirt) was amongst those fortunate enough to don their gumboots for the site visit at the Pheasant Wood archeological dig. [Today’s media updates are after Johan’s report]

FFFAIF member Johan Durnez arrives for site visit at Fromelles.

Johan reports on the visit:

Last week (Thursday June 5th) we received an invitation from our friend Carole Laignel who is the secretary of the “F.W.T.M.14-18” [Fromelles Museum] to attend the explanation that was to be held for the inhabitants of Fromelles on Saturday at 10.45 am.

As you can imagine, we were very happy with this invitation and we were more than keen to go as Fromelles is only about 60 km from where we live here in Waregem.  ……So, you can imagine that it did not take us very long to decide about the program for the Saturday morning ! 

It had been raining for several days and Carole sent us an e-mail that morning to let us know that we could better bring gumboots as the place was a bit muddy.  And yes… muddy it was !!!  Carole told us that they had 30 millilitres water on each square meter the day before… We arrived just in time and were warmly welcomed by Carole who took us to the site of Pheasant Wood.  Soon we knew that her advice of bringing boots proved to be a very good one ! 

On the site were about fifty inhabitants of Fromelles and it was heart warming to see that all generations were there : young (let’s say  “in their twenties”) and old (some looked in their late seventies or early eighties.) There were also very young, but these kids were more fascinated by the fact that they could play in this lovely sticky mud and water while daddy was listening to the explanation (I wonder what mummy will have said when they came home… )

A staff member of the Australian Embassy in Paris explained to the people how and why the excavation was done and what the possible plans are for the future. I don’t think that I have to write all this down because of it were the things that you can read in all your media as it was a summary of all this information but wonderfully translated in French (I wished I could speak in French like this Aussie did !) 

In case you have not seen and read it :Carole also sent us this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7430622.stm  If you have not watched it yet, have a look at the news fragment as it will provide you with some good views on the site of excavation (and good explanation.) (You can watch an extra fragment on http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7429747.stm  or listen to this http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7430000/7430703.stm ). You also find reports and photos on http://www.defence.gov.au/fromelles/updates.htm 

After that introduction, the people could ask questions to Dr Tony Pollard who is the Director of the Centre for Battlefield Archaeology (Glasgow University Archaeological Research Division) and to Head of (the Australian) Army History Unit, Mr Roger Lee.  Questions and answers were translated by the man of the Embassy. The Australian Major General O’Brien was there too but he did not take part in the meeting. Lambis Englezos was also on the site but he did not act as an official spokesman but answered on one or two of the questions that had to do with his involvement in this case. 

On site visit at Pheasant Wood Fromelles

As you can see on the photos, the people were kept away from the pits where the excavation was going on. (photo Carole Laignel) (and me on the extreme right making photos !)

 Pheasant Wood site visit

from left to right : Mr Roger Lee, Dr Tony Pollard, the staffmember of the Embassy (the church of Fromelles is seen on the left)

Conditions on the dig site at Pheasant Wood

Excavation at Pheasant Wood Fromelles 7 June 08

So, this is all what we could see of the work.  But I can fully understand that they did not allow the visitors to get closer. First there were the muddy conditions and to go closer with at least fifty people could have caused serious damage to the work.  And it was also a good way to avoid that anybody would make pictures of things and items that can better kept off the internet. 

Now, what may be interesting for you to know is how the feelings were from these locals. (And keep in mind : I write this as a Belgian – so, I consider myself as ‘neutral’.) 

Well, I think that you all would have been moved by the great respect that these French people show to these graves and their great fear that anything would/will be done that can disgrace this place. I remember that one of the questions/concerns was : “Will you (= Australian/British/French authorities) make sure that this field will not become a place where treasure hunters will appear as soon as the archaeological team has left ?” They mentioned the fact that many ‘WWI treasure hunters’ seem come to the Fromelles area with metal detectors for all sorts of findings and they don’t want that these would come to Pheasant Wood to find war related items and desecrate the place.  The answer was that the place will be secured (in an invisible way – maybe by having a steel net (like they use to arm concrete – I hope I use the right word ‘steel net’ ?) just below the surface so that any digging will be impossible. The authorities also intend to ask officially to the inhabitants and youth of Fromelles to keep an eye on the place and to alarm the police as soon as they see people who go there with bad intentions. Well, I can tell you that they immediately had about fifty volunteers who promised to keep an eye on the place !

Another concern of the locals was that there may be a chance that all the bodies will be taken out of the graves and sent back to their home countries. The general feeling was that these men had died there for the freedom of the French and that the least thing the locals can do is to take care of their graves and to show their respects and to keep the memories alive of what has happened there in 1916.  I even think that many would feel a kind of offended if the mass graves would be emptied and the bodies would be repatriated.  Most of them would be very happy to see that Pheasant Wood would become a place that looks like VC Corner: a place with markers in the grass that show the five pits where bodies have been discovered and where they can have their commemorations or where you can go for a moment of silence.

I think that the most moving question came from an older man. He asked (in French) to the staff member of the Embassy: “Monsieur… I ask your permission to conclude this meeting with a minute of silence in honour all these young men who died here in our community and whose graves finally have been found.”  I noticed that the staff member was a kind of surprised by the question but also moved by this request. And everyone who had heard the soft and gentle voice of this older man immediately agreed that we should have this minute of silence.

Well, that was really the most special moment of that morning. The generator of the pumps was switched off and then silence fell over Pheasant Wood…  an impressive silence and I wished you could have shared this moment with us.  During this minute I was thinking of this well know sentence on the school building in Villers Bretonneux “Never Forget Australia”.  Well… in Fromelles it is (for as far as I know) not written on the wall of the local school but I can tell you: “Never forget Australia” is written in the hearts of the people of this small town in Northern France and I am sure that you can never find a better place and better people to be the guard for these eternal resting places.  I noticed that already in the Summer of 2006 when we attended the big ceremonies on VC Corner and at the Cobbers Memorial: when these people go to the ceremony it is really because of they want to pay tribute to these young people from England and Australia who gave their lives and not just to see a kind of spectacle or military parade.

I am sorry that I can’t provide you with photos of the excavations itself, but I wanted to let you know what will probably not have been in your media: the great appreciation of these French people for what has been done and their great dedication to keep the memory alive.

Next Friday at 11 am (so that’s 5 PM, 6.30 PM or 7 PM where you live) there will be a short ceremony on the site of Pheasant Wood to conclude this unique archaeological campaign. If you think of the men in Fromelles on that hour… then we will all feel united.

Lest We Forget

Johan Durnez

BELGIUM

Today’s media reports include debate on the fate of the Missing at Fromelles:

The Herald Sun: Leave Australians in Peace in French battlefield graves. Click here.

The Daily Telegraph: Fromelles dignity must be kept. Click here.

The Wimmera Mail-Times: Graves end war search. Click here.

From the British viewpoint:

The Slough & Langley Observer: Families can bury war dead at last. Click here.

You may not have seen an interview from the BBC aired at the beginning of the excavations, which features Lambis Englezos. It’s worth a look. Click here to view.

LOOK FOR MORE NEWS TOMORROW.

FROMELLES is NOT honoured on The Anzac Memorial in Hyde Park, Sydney. FFFAIF supports the recognition of FROMELLES on all state memorials.

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More on the Rising Sun

Last night’s RECENT NEWS  item Rising Sun Unearthed featured the Minister’s media release and other articles.

If you wish to see a photograph of the Rising Sun collar badge that was unearthed at Pheasant Wood take a look at the Sydney Morning Herald article: Digger’s badge found in Fromelles mass grave by clicking here.

The ABC news report has been updated: Fromelles badge find of ‘national significance’. Click here.

This evenings update:

The update from the Department of Defence can read by clicking here.

Since the Minister’s media release the Australian media has been busy.

The Age: Diggers’ fate in balance. Click here. Diggers’ Rising Sun badge found in Fromelles pit. Click here.

Scopical/au.: Fromelles site soldiers ‘definitely’ Aussies. Click here.

news.com.au: No decision on soldier remains. Click here.

The Hearld Sun: Rising Sun badge proves Australian soldiers’ grave site. Click here.

The Sydney Morning Herald: Leave our soldiers to lie in that rich earth. Click here. Also updated version of Digger’s badge found in Fromelles mass grave. Click here.

Overseas coverage includes:

From New Zealand: Scoop Independent News World: Australian Soldiers Confirmed Buried at Fromelles. Click here

 afp: Australian Soldiers were buried in WW1mass grave. Click here.

International Herald Tribune: Remains of Australian soldiers killed in World War 1 battle found in France. Click here.

Would you like to hear more about The Battle of Fromelles from the author of Fromelles Patrick Lindsay? This recording was made earlier this year before the dig at Pheasant Wood began. Click here. You will need to scroll down the list of books that appear on the screen until you locate Fromelles.

FROMELLES is NOT honoured on The Anzac Memorial in Hyde Park, Sydney. FFFAIF supports the recognition of FROMELLES on all state memorials.

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Rising Sun Unearthed

Monday Evening 9 June: It was announced this evening that a Rising Sun collar badge has been unearthed during the archaeological dig at Pheasant Wood Fromelles.

Rising Sun Badge

The Hon. Warren Snowdon MP, Minister for Defence Science and Personnel announced the find in a media release this evening. Read the Minister’s media release by clicking here.

Media coverage of the badge find includes:

The Sydney Morning Herald: Australians among Fromelles remains. Click here.

The Brisbane Times: Diggers among World War 1 Fromelles remains. Click here.

The Australian: Digger’s Badge found in mass grave. Click here.

ABC News: Digger’s Badge unearthed at Fromelles. Click here.

National Nine News: Australians among Fromelles remains. Click here.

news.com.au: Badge find proves Diggers in mass grave at Fromelles. Click here.

aap: Australians among Fromelles remains. Click here.

The Adelaide Advertiser: Digger’s Badge found in mass grave. Click here.

Overseas media coverage on the progress at the dig site has been reported in:

TimesOnLine: Lost grave of hundreds of British and Australian Great War dead from battle of Fromelles is discovered. Click here.

Patrick Lindsay, author of the book entitled Fromelles, has arrived in France and has posted his thoughts on the Pheasant Wood dig. Click here.

FROMELLES is NOT honoured on The Anzac Memorial in Hyde Park, Sydney. FFFAIF supports the recognition of FROMELLES on all state memorials.

 

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Awaiting Despatches………

New Families and Friends of First AIF member Warren Baker met Lambis Englezos while visiting Fromelles on 24th May.

H.Baker)

Awaiting despatches from the field  ….

As the second week of the archaeological dig for the missing Diggers at Pheasant Wood Fromelles has been dominated by wet weather, there are few reports from the field or in the media, however this is likely to change as the third week progresses.

During the quiet time, Families and Friends of First AIF (FFFAIF) members will be able to enjoy the latest edition of the quarterly DIGGER Magazine, that should have reached Australian members in the past few days and international members should be receiving their copy shortly.  DIGGER 23 contains 40 pages of stories of individual soldiers and a list of the “missing soldiers of Fromelles”. A copy of the cover and listing of the articles is included in the DIGGER tab of this website, as is usual for all copies of DIGGER.

Receiving the DIGGER magazine is rated as the most valued benefit of membership by FFFAIF members.  DIGGER is normally 40 pages and contains many articles and photos, the majority of which are provided by members and published for the first time.

Visitors to the FFFAIF web-site, who may want to be associated with and meet people with a similar interest in preserving the memory of the Australian soldiers, sailors, airmen and nurses who served in the Great War 1914-1918, may wish to consider the benefits of membership of FFFAIF.

FFFAIF members are scattered throughout all Australian states and overseas in Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the United States of America.  FFFAIF members generally have an area of interest and many are regarded as experts in their area of interest and a significant number are published or aspiring authors, so membership also brings with it access to this network of interesting individuals. 

Members not only receive DIGGER quarterly, but new members are also able to acquire bound copies of previous DIGGERs and will soon be able to search back copies on-line in the Members Area of the web-site. Members are also able to obtain FFFAIF shirts, caps and other merchandise and attend FFFAIF lectures and site visits.

So if you are enjoying the benefit of the RECENT NEWS and PAST NEWS archives of the FFFAIF web site, please consider the other benefits of membership for $A40 p.a. Click here for an Application Form . More details available in Members Area (click on tab at the top of the page).

Update to yesterday’s photos from Fromelles….

Yesterday’s post indicated that locals donned their gum boots to visit the site of the archaeological dig at Pheasant Wood.

A photo from Carole Laignel, Secretary of the Fromelles Museum showed the locals and visitors gathering under grey skies.

While we await despatches from those present, we have received additional photos from Carole, which have been added to yesterdays post “On site at Fromelles“.

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On Site at Fromelles

On Saturday 7 June locals donned their gum boots to visit the site of the archaeological dig at Pheasant Wood Fromelles in France. Although the area had received heavy rain overnight the rain held off for the site visit.

The photo below from Carole Laignel, Secretary of the Fromelles Museum ( F.W.T.M 14-18 ) shows the locals and visitors gathering under grey skies.

On site visit at Pheasant Wood Fromelles

It may not have rained during the visit by the locals of Fromelles but the rain has certainly made working conditions on the excavation site very difficult. Modern day duckboards have been put into action.

Modern day duckboards at Fromelles

Modern day duckboards at Fromelles_2

Excavation work continues in the mud:

Excavation at Pheasant Wood Fromelles 7 June 08

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FROMELLES is NOT honoured on The Anzac Memorial in Hyde Park, Sydney.  FFFAIF supports the recognition of FROMELLES on all state memorials.

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Locals to Visit Dig

Locals from Fromelles France have been invited to visit the archaeological dig at Pheasant Wood. Secretary of  the Fromelles Museum, Carole Laignel – pictured below – and  FFFAIF member Johan Durnez from Belgium will be amongst the visitors.

Carole Laignel at Fromelles Museum

 Johan sends this message: 

Hello and good morning from soaking wet Flanders (we had rain aaaaaaaaaall day yesterday). 

This morning we will go to Fromelles as there is an “open day” (I hope that this is the right word) on the site of the excavation. The archaeologists will explain to the locals of Fromelles what they are doing and we have been invited by our friend Carole Laignel.

Look for their report tomorrow.

Missed an earlier News item?  They are still available – if not listed in RECENT NEWS they can be found under PAST NEWS – select a month and take a look.

 

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Dig Rate Slows

The Australian Government’s Department of Defence explains why the dig rate at Pheasant Wood Fromelles has slowed: This is due to the delicate work required as remains continue to be uncovered and work proceeds around these discoveries.

Australian Memorial Park Fromelles

To read more from the Department of Defence on Discovery of Remains and Artefacts Continue – Update Days 9 and 10, click here.

Relatives of the Missing from the Battle of Fromelles, whose remains may be amongst those being uncovered, can register at  http://www.fromelles.net 

ABC Tasmania reports on one such hopeful family. Click here to read more.

Look for more news tomorrow.

FROMELLES is NOT honoured on The Anzac Memorial in Hyde Park, Sydney.  FFFAIF supports the recognition of FROMELLES on all state memorials.

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All Quiet ….

All quiet at Pheasant Wood – for the time being no news is coming from the dig site.

The photo above shows Lambis Englezos and John Fielding getting ‘in the mood’ for the dig at Pheasant Wood in April 2008.

Lambis Englezos and John Fielding at Pheasant Wood April 08

The only report to ‘post’ today comes from The Reading Chronicle, UK: The Graves of ‘lost army’ discovered

Look for more updates tomorrow.

FROMELLES is NOT honoured on The Anzac Memorial in Hyde Park, Sydney.  FFFAIF supports the recognition of FROMELLES on all state memorials.

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Fromelles Mud

Pheasant Wood shrouded in mist

The fields surrounding Frommelles are shrouded in mist as the area has received 38mls of rain since Monday and little news on the project is seeping out from the archaeological dig at Pheasant Wood to the media.

The Australian Government Department of Defence reports on Days 7 & 8: Painstaking work continues on site in Fromelles

While waiting for further news from Fromelles take time to view another visit to the battlefields: The ANZAC Kids.

Also watch the responses to the report by clicking here

Do you have a Fromelles photo or story you wish to share with others? Please contact us at projectfffaif@yahoo.com.au

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FROMELLES is NOT honoured on The Anzac Memorial in Hyde Park, Sydney. FFFAIF supports the recognition of FROMELLES on all state memorials.

 

 

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Fromelles Cobbers

Work continues at Pheasant Wood to uncover the remains of Australian soldiers of the first AIF killed at the Battle of Fromelles and buried by the German Army.

Lambis Englezos from Melbourne has been a driving force behind the establishment of this archaeological project and can be seen in the photo below being interviewed by international journalist on site at Pheasant Wood.

International journalsits interviewing Lambis Englezos at Fromelles dig

Patrick Lindsay in his book Fromelles says that: Without Lambis, the missing Diggers of Fromelles would still be languishing in their unmarked and lonely graves at Pheasant Wood.

Word is spreading world wide about the dig – even to Moldova – read the report on Archaeologists find WW1mass grave remains  (by clicking on the title) or practice your Romanian by clicking here.

Closer to home the Australian published this report in yesterday’s paper: Remains found in five pits at Fromelles

Other updates from yesterday did not appear to very late in the day – have you caught up with those reports? Not sure – see Recent News Missing Diggers.

The UK media is beginning to report on the archaeological dig at Fromelles. Read their view on the project by clicking on the following links:

itv.com: WW1troop remains discovered

Telegraph.co.uk: Archaeologists hopeful they have found graves of First World War ‘lost army’

Mirror.co.uk: Search for First World War mass grave

DailyRecord.co.uk: Scots team find World War 1 Australian mass grave

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